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Kenmore Elite Dishwasher 665.13183K800 leaking through the Motor Diverter

Hello, I have a Kenmore Elite Dishwasher 665.13183K800 that is 2.5 years old and it is leaking pretty heavily through the motor diverter. I initially thought it was the seal around the door, but after pulling the unit out and testing it, I can clearly see it leak through the diverter. I see the Motor-divrtr listed as part #17 on the "Pump, washarm and motor parts" diagram, but i am sure if it is, in fact, the diverter. There is a rubber washer/gasket that the diverter rests against and I think this might be my problem.


Is that rubber washer included with the Motor Diverter? If not, what is the part number for it? It looks to me that the seal between the motor diverter and the rest of the unit has failed? I looked online through the diagrams for this dishwasher, but can not find that seal.


Also, could this leak be caused but something slightly different? What are the reasons for the diverter to fail and what is really the function of this motor diverter.


Thank you very much for your help.


-Andrew

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Lyle W
Hello Mike. I see that upthereinthesky posted some good advice. You can examine the seal and replace any parts that are damaged. The sump sounds expensive but it only costs about $57. The Diverter Motor Assembly costs around $40. When dealing with leaks under the dishwasher, it is normally better to be safe than sorry. In most situation, replacing the sump and the diverter motor will certainly fix your problem. If you need more help, let us know.
by Lyle W Earned 2,989 community points in Kenmore
September 3rd, 2013
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William Swearer
I'm no expert, for sure, but the way I see it, if you're indeed positive the leak is through that seal, there's only three mating surfaces there: the sump body, the seal (inner and outer faces) and the motor shaft. If the replacement seal is a perfect replacement, then the sump body or the motor shaft would have to be the culprit. I would remove the diverter and carefully examine the shaft for any imperfections. Even the slightest scratch would be a source of leaks.

Perhaps you could also ensure all mating surfaces are immaculate, and slather on some silicone lubricant. Maybe you'll get lucky.

After that, I might consider the "exact same seal" isn't.
by William Swearer
August 30th, 2013
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Hello, I have a Kenmore Elite Dishwasher 665.13183K802 that is 2 years old and it is leaking pretty heavily through the motor diverter. I was told the same thing in that you have to buy the sump. I was able to remove the seal and take it to a local seal place and replace it with the same exact seal however it is still leaking. Is it because of the diverter or do I need to replace the sump anyways.
by Manage My Life
August 30th, 2013
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William Swearer
Lyle: Thanks so much! These photos will help a lot. I did manage to buy a service manual online, but they sent one for a different model. Should work, though.

Question: Since this leak has been happening for a couple of months now, should I replace the Diverter Motor as well, just to be on the safe side? The outer shell has some mineral deposits on it, and there is slight cupric oxide on the contacts. But, it still works. On the other hand, I don't want to have to replace it later.

Maybe I answered my own question. Is it worth $40 for some peace of mind?
by William Swearer
June 11th, 2013
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Lyle W
Here are the images.
by Lyle W Earned 2,989 community points in Kenmore
June 11th, 2013
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Hello upthereinthesky. I understand your concern about this failure in

your relatively new Kenmore Elite Dishwasher Model 665.13183K802 .

I apologize for the problems that this is causing. I posted some images below that show how to remove the sump on that type of dishwasher. Your model may be slightly different from the one shown below but the basic procedure should be the same. Be sure that you shut off the house circuit breaker for the dishwasher before accessing internal components. If you need more help let us know.
by Lyle W Earned 2,989 community points in Kenmore
June 11th, 2013
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William Swearer
I have the same problem. Also at age 2.5 years. I'm wondering about the design of this dishwasher. Mine is a slightly different model number: 665.13183k802. I'm angry that I have to replace the sump just for a lousy seal!

Can I get a repair manual somewhere with the instructions to replace the sump?

Thanks a lot for a great forum!

Bill
by William Swearer
June 8th, 2013
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Lyle W
Hello Jon. That dishwasher design is relatively new. The earliest versions were manufactured in 2008. Many of those models have been running since that time with no leaks through that seal. I suspect that you had a defective seal. It is unlikely that you will have another failure of that component for the rest of the normal life of that dishwasher (at least 10 years).
by Lyle W Earned 2,989 community points in Kenmore
October 2nd, 2012
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Andrew - just finished installing the replacement Sump which did include the seal and NO LEAK ! Now the question is how long will this seal last...no doubt, initially a bad design or defective seal (one or the other; hopefully not both). Hope you had good luck with your's.
by Manage My Life
September 30th, 2012
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Hi Andy,

Thank you for submitting a question to Manage My Life.

You cannot order that seal separately. The seal comes with the sump assembly (part # W10168822). So you will have to replace the sump assembly and I recommend replacing the diverter motor (part # W10155344). With the replacement of these parts, your leak issue should be taken care of.

If you do not feel confident repairing this problem yourself, then you can have it repaired at your home by a Sears technician. Here is a link for the website;

Sears Home Services

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Here is a link that you may use to view the parts list diagram or purchase any parts needed for your

Kenmore model number 665.13183K800 Dishwasher

.

I hope this is helpful. If I may be of further assistance please include more details in a reply to this post.



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July 12th, 2012
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